Back in the Survivor: Winners at War pre-season, we thought there was no way one-hit-wonder Tony Vlachos could become a two-time winner. He's too erratic. He's too loud. He's too big of a target. He's too ... Tony.

But in the final episode of Survivor's 4oth season, "It All Boils Down To This," Tony proved us all wrong. And boy, do TV Guide's resident Survivor superfans, the Survivor Brothers, have something to say about that in their finale wrap-up podcast:

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As strong as Tony's performance was all season long, his victory in the finale was not fully assured. After being forced to burn his Hidden Immunity Idol at the final six, Tony came back to win individual immunity at final five and then, in order to secure his spot in the final three, best Sarah Lacina — pardon us, just Lacina now — in a fire-making challenge for the ages.

Tony did it all against an incredibly strong challenge from Edge of Extinction returnee Natalie Anderson. Even with Natalie's two idol plays and her own individual immunity win at final four, Survivor's most famous "Twinnie" could only muster four jury votes to Tony's 12.

Could Natalie have turned the tide and eeked out a win with a different strategy? And was Michele Fitzgerald cheated out of a much-deserved second-place finish by nervous jurors? The bros definitely have some thoughts about that.

Plus, the bros discuss the stunning decision by Ben Driebergen to give up his game — and his shot at $2 million — for the benefit of Lacina. Was it a "quit?"

And, yes, of course your Survivor Brothers hosts discuss Jeff Probst's shocking call for 16-year-olds to apply for the next season of Survivor. Are we about to get Survivor: Family Edition? And are teenagers psychologically equipped to handle a game that has lasting effects on its mature players?

It's all on this week's Survivor Brothers — a finale wrap-up special that you can listen to here:

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